Alliance Defenses

Not all of us were taking advantage of a bug with the Tavern knowingly. I just never questioned the speed. I miss it now, but having read the post about the math, I understand why it needed to be corrected.

We have missed such an obvious bug for so long as well after all.

I hope this wym-1468417039833 has been fixed now too.

Missing info about how many cells/settlers to settle a new town.

Had my settlers in a shelter, took them out but still no settler info.

Edit: Found the info in a greyed out button.

Had to click on it instead of hovering the mouse over the button, which I prefer.

I will comment about Visible Defenses...I think you put here the wrong purpose :-) This information must allow to commanders to detect the weak players in the alliance and help them to built correct defenses :-)  

The lighthouse is only available to those with a sea town. I am  one of the unfortunate ones who has a river town only. Is anything being added to help speed up the naval vessels in these towns? We are a real disadvantage now.

The lighthouse is only available to those with a sea town. I am  one of the unfortunate ones who has a river town only. Is anything being added to help speed up the naval the vessels in these towns? We are a real disadvantage now.

You are not unfortunate, you are just settling for only having a river town and not growing to better cells. Try to get yourself some nice beach property - Quadra is not that far away from the shore, then you can enjoy the nice glow from the lighthouse

I did some tests on travel times needed to attack a neighbor touching my domain border from two different towns within my domain.  The results seem a bit strange.

Army movement speed is 35%, sent hero + siege weapons (trebs), travel path from both towns is the same if units are marching or loaded onto brigs:

Town 1 to target town: Travel path is 13 cells away, 9 cells travel within my domain, 4 in neighbors domain

TT:  54min 11 sec (marching),  TT: 47 min 31s (using brigs)  

Town 2 to target town: Travel path is 8 cells away, 4 within my domain, 4 in neighbors domain

TT: 55min 50 sec (marching), TT:  40min 25s (using brigs)

So, is this how it's meant to be? That launching a marching attack from a town that is significantly closer takes LONGER than launching an attack from a town that is much further away?    

Not all of us were taking advantage of a bug with the Tavern knowingly. I just never questioned the speed. I miss it now, but having read the post about the math, I understand why it needed to be corrected.

I can say the same thing...didn't took advantage of this...but also understand that even if it's a good thing in a way, it needed to be fixed.

Also, the auto-sharing option is great, as many of us forget to share their army after retraining.

Regarding the slowdown of enemies in case of attack, it may ...it may not work for some. 

Anyway, this is a good thing , but if a weak or undeveloped player doesn't have any  kind of defenses or weak defenses, it's pointless. 

but this is another matter. The thing is question here is ok and could help in case of attack detection.

Okie....so much for posting as anon.  Here are the screenshots of the travel paths:

A bit hard to see due to the army popup, but travel path passes through three global resources (diamonds, horses, spice)

Travel path crosses river and one global resource (horses):

I understand, of course that crossing a river does slow down an army, but it should not slow it down so much that it would take longer to travel from Syrah as it does from Merlot.

Looks like a wonderful update!  Can't wait to see how well it works!

Keep it up (dev) team!  :)

I can no longer run the game. The update makes my antivirus as well as Windows Firewall go crazy. The firewall detected 5 or so Trojans and blocked the launcher. Wtf???

Corssing a river can make a difference and also I see you have different number of units. If you use different units, they have different speed and this different time to arrive.

You asked me for a screen shot, i'm assuming to see what the travel paths were, so i gave you one.  The times i reported in my original post were of the exact same units - my hero and one treb, and for the times reported with brigs, i loaded my hero and one treb into one brig.  To get you the screen shot you asked for, i used different units to show the travel path ONLY, so i didn't have to wait for my hero and treb to travel between towns before getting the screenshot. 

The problem still remains.  It should NOT take 50 min for one treb and hero with +35% movement speed to travel 8 cells to a target.  The 'advertised' movement speed of a treb is 25 cells per hour, which would indicate that without slow downs, speed up perks, etc. the TT for a distance of 8 cells should be 19 min. I had a target before the update that was a similar distance away and the TT was 20 min, now after the update, it's now a 2.5x increase  As i indicated before, even with a river crossing, it should NOT take longer for an army to travel 8 cells over land than it does to travel 13 cells.  So this shows that there is a problem with the formula somewhere that affects travel times of armies marching to targets launched within the detection range.

I understand the changes were made to help out defensive alliances.  Slowing down of armies within the detection range should be normalized over the total calculated travel time - not added as an INCREASE to the overall travel time.  If the changes made in this update effectively increases overall travel times, this would benefit only the defenders, and penalize the attackers (with longer travel times to get to a target).