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Guerrilla and Crusade added to revise Rage mechanic

In another attempt to make battles more interesting and fair, today we revised the Rage mechanics and added several new concepts.

  1. Crusade ability added - from now on players will accumulate rage only after they unlock this ability in Medieval Age.
  2. Guerrilla - a new attack type unlocked in Classical Age allows an attack on enraged players totally anonymously! No one will be able to detect it was you, even your allies. It is also possible to do group guerrilla attack, but no one will know who actually participated, even the person who started it. When you are using Guerrilla attack:
    • your armies are not visible to anyone else - even your allies - when they move
    • you do not gain rage so others won't see it increase when you attack
    • your hero is displayed as generic while he/she marches - and in the reports
    • Guerrilla attack replays do not show damage and health so players will not figure out it was you by checking attack multipliers
    • you do not increase attack and plunder in rankings
    • you can attack anyone who has rage, despite diplomatic relations, except your own alliance members
    • not all players can attack enraged players - only those who are close, but the higher rage is, the bigger distance of possible attackers is with 100% rage allowing roughly whole continent to attack the target.
  3. Heroic Onslaught does not increase rage, so you will not be afraid of retaliation in the form of Guerrilla if you are hunting for stripes.
  4. Pirates' anonymity is now improved similar to Guerrilla.

An important thing to note: because you begin to gain rage after you unlock Crusade in Medieval Age, it becomes more beneficial to fight earlier in Classical Age because rage will not increase and you will not face possible retaliation in form of Guerrilla.

Posted 2 months ago.
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Interesting feature the Guerrilla attack but I do have some questions about it:

You say there will be no replay available in reports but can the attacker see the buildings that are damaged ?

When you unlock rage in Medieval Age is it still possible to do Guerrilla attack so the rage won't grow?

how does the "group Guerrilla attack work, because when there is a join-button it must be placed by someone. He of she will no longer be anonymous

2 months ago

after patch all old and new battle reports broken -_- 

2 months ago

I can't get into game. The Launcher says the game is up to date, but when I click OK in the e-mail/password screen I get an error saying I can't play until I update the game. I restarted the Launcher several times. Also in the Launcher there isn't any news (the background that changes) about the guerrilla update if that is of any relevance. 

2 months ago

Reply to Cynari :

after patch all old and new battle reports broken -_- 

It's a bug, and it will fixed soon

2 months ago

Some questions come to mind, if someone could please answer:

1.  Can you attack in guerilla mode outside of diplomatic relations? Or do you need to be at war with your target for onslaught attacks? 

2.  In guerilla mode, will the defender and his/her alliance be able to see the size, number, and nature of the armies that are about to attack like they do now, so they know what needs to be done in terms of reinforcing?  If not, i can see this being terribly abused.  (Ex. Target is one hero, but a few units are sent to another hero to trigger the alliance to reinforce their member....then the main attack is sent a few minutes after the first attack to the actual target - the alliance won't be able to reinforce because they sent all their units to defend against the smaller attack)

3.  It's mentioned that 'not even your allies' will see the armies marching toward the target.  I see this being an issue with respect to being able to place scents on your allies armies if they are clocked.  Currently in a group attack, if someone needs to afk, other alliance members watch their armies for clocks.  If they can't see your army, how can they know if they are clocked?  Also, how can you know if everyone is synced properly to arrive at the same time? 

2 months ago

Reply to Snooky :

You say there will be no replay available in reports but can the attacker see the buildings that are damaged ?

Ok, I was mistaken, you can see the replays, you just can't see health and damage.

2 months ago

Reply to riley :

1.  Can you attack in guerilla mode outside of diplomatic relations? Or do you need to be at war with your target for onslaught attacks? 

Yes, you can attack anyone except your own alliance members.

2.  In guerilla mode, will the defender and his/her
alliance be able to see the size, number, and nature of the armies that
are about to attack like they do now, so they know what needs to be done
in terms of reinforcing?  If not, i can see this being terribly
abused.  (Ex. Target is one hero, but a few units are sent to another
hero to trigger the alliance to reinforce their member....then the main
attack is sent a few minutes after the first attack to the actual target
- the alliance won't be able to reinforce because they sent all their
units to defend against the smaller attack)


There is no restrictions for the target except attackers being anonymous. It's the same like pirates now.


3.  It's mentioned
that 'not even your allies' will see the armies marching toward the
target.  I see this being an issue with respect to being able to place
scents on your allies armies if they are clocked.  Currently in a group
attack, if someone needs to afk, other alliance members watch their
armies for clocks.  If they can't see your army, how can they know if
they are clocked?  Also, how can you know if everyone is synced properly
to arrive at the same time? 

You can't. If this is an issue, use regular attack instead guerrilla, for guerrilla everyone should watch their armies personally and use stratagems when necessary. It's either convenience or anonymity, can't do both for obvious reasons.

2 months ago

Reply to Snooky :


When you unlock rage in Medieval Age is it still possible to do Guerrilla attack so the rage won't grow?

Yes, athough related, those are two different abilities. One makes your rage grow, other allows to attack enraged anonymously.


how
does the "group Guerrilla attack work, because when there is a
join-button it must be placed by someone. He of she will no longer be
anonymous


The same as regular joint attack. Yes, it is placed by someone, but there is no guarantee that person actually hits the target, he can cancel his army right after being sent and you will never know.

2 months ago

I have updated news post with some detals I forgot to mention.

2 months ago

When mentioned that no one can see the attack, not even allies. I am wondering if the alliance members in the same alliance will still get the report log of the attack, just like we do when a member pirates someone.

If we can not see who and how our members are attacking another alliance, then this will just cause real issues in the diplomatic aspect of the game. It will not be hard to find out who is sending out Guerrilla attacks, so i would like to be aware if any of my members are using it. In the event i am not told first of course.

2 months ago

Reply to Tuey :

I spent all say thinking about this new guerrilla thing, It seems you just want a game played by cowards. 

I agree ! 

2 months ago

Reply to Arya :

I spent all say thinking about this new guerrilla thing, It seems you just want a game played by cowards. 

I agree ! 

I must say, i agree completely as well. Hunting for stripes on an enraged player should be glory lol not hide. The only reason i think bers is adding this concept is to help those in fear of being hit back. Kind of defeats the whole "War Victory" aspect in general then. I remember when the War Victory was first added and i mentioned defenders do not get any stripes for destroying Advanced attackers his comment was something along the lines of "they are not warriors" so.... A hidden attacker is not a warrior either lol. Besides, it was never hard to figure out who was doing pirate attacks... With the guerrilla concept being the same, it might even be easier to figure out who is sending the attacks since Bers mentions it is within a proximity range. Either way, i do see it as an interesting change, and will bring on more wars.

2 months ago

Reply to dbarns :

It will not be hard to find out who is sending out Guerrilla attacks

How? We covered all aspects which could reveal the person to make sure it stays anonymous.

2 months ago

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2 months ago

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