Two Wrongs Dont Make A Right

It is wrong to insult another player, use foul language or say aggressive things. No discussion about that. That being said, harassing player A to the point where they lose it, because player B constantly pushes their buttons in one way or another or constantly provokes that player in order to get a tangible accusation , is also wrong. It's very easy to report a comment in CC or from PM, but the constant "funny" name calling and invasive fireworks or harassing "silly" comments most often go unnoticed or ignored. I understand alliance members get upset due to attacks, I've been there , I get it. What I dont understand is how a leader gets upset when they dont even protect their players and resorts to mind games to get the attacking alliance even more upset. Often times this gets to be  a bit much for certain individuals. Frustration accumulates and it has to come out !!.  We cant all agree on everything all the time, but if you give heat expect to get it back one way or another.  Lets be more mature and enjoy the game. Lets learn from our gaming mistakes instead of resorting to instigation or any form of aggressiveness.  In short, lets be adults!

I need to agree with this absolutely. I have seen several instances recently where players have purposely provoked reaction - then are so surprised when they actually experience the repercussions. I would like to see an atmosphere of fair play and mutual courtesy even under the flags of war. After all, this is but a game we play.

I have no idea what, specifically, has happened to warrant this but I agree wholeheartedly.  I have a story to share.  Some of us remember a very strong, despot player who has since left the game.  Early in A3 she and I had some private conversation during which I said something to her that she took exception to.  She was meant to.  It felt good at the time but it bought me two stages of war. 

We finally spoke again privately in A4 at which time I apologized for what I had to said to her in A3, not to affect negotiations, but because I thought about it and realized that my sarcasm was unbecoming of a grown woman playing a game.  I meant my apology and still regret letting my temper get the better of me, even if it was in private chat.  We made peace and had a very civil and pleasant conversation afterwards.

Now, I do get how being the object of attack can be very provoking.  I was provoked, but I learned defense from that player and will forever be grateful to her for her "tough love".   I also asked myself why it seemed I was being targeted and thought long and hard about how I conducted negotiations with other alliances going forward.  I've made mistakes, everyone does and I regret them but I hope I learned from those mistakes and how not to repeat them.

We are playing a game here.  This is not world politics and nothing that happens here is important in the scheme of things.  Valkyrie and Simba are right and I thank them both for opening this discussion.