WAR VICTORY - new proposal

It's funny! I am the one who try with my alliance to find some ways to make the WAR victory working....without involving collectivism players ...and protect them in this way! And all I see HERE as replies is that I am trying to propose something to cheat! For all the ones who knows me - despots and collects -  they know that I'm always a player with rules and with honor! And so my alliance!

 Fine! So, everybody in DR think is better to keep attacking collect players? Why dont you want to give a honest try to this proposal? In the past you've tried to practice those "agreements" in order to fill up your trophy hall and get those stripes ! Not my alliance ! 

If you dont agree , just propose something better...   

Well, this is just an experiment, we can always disable it back.

Well, I think now is more than obvious which alliance doesnt wants to fight other despots ! 

It's funny! I am the one who try with my alliance to find some ways to make the WAR victory working....without involving collectivism players ...and protect them in this way! And all I see HERE as replies is that I am trying to propose something to cheat! For all the ones who knows me - despots and collects -  they know that I'm always a player with rules and with honor! And so my alliance!

You are not the only player nor the only one to use this type of play. Use your experience watching past play and tell yourself that this type of thing would not happen. My opinion has nothing to do with fighting despots. They are certainly the easier target by far.

I see the following happening:

1 Extremely fast expansion by despots taking each others hoppers down without any possibility to interfere ( they stay protected in alliance , don't need to leave)

2 Unlimited "hero ranking" , because heroes can help eachother grow inside alliance, without any limitation.

3 1+2 makes 3: further imbalancing the tedious build up of balances.

you are right, players without honor could cheat. they already find ways to do that in fact, as you well know.

It's funny! I am the one who try with my alliance to find some ways to make the WAR victory working....without involving collectivism players ...and protect them in this way! And all I see HERE as replies is that I am trying to propose something to cheat! For all the ones who knows me - despots and collects -  they know that I'm always a player with rules and with honor! And so my alliance!

You are not the only player nor the only one to use this type of play. Use your experience watching past play and tell yourself that this type of thing would not happen. My opinion has nothing to do with fighting despots. They are certainly the easier target by far.

I am testing this game since less than 2 years..I wasnt here to saw how the others were making agreements to cheat in the past ...all I am proposing is based on my "young" experience  - no need to remind me that! - and also based on the fact that Bers is trying to make despots fighting each others! 

And you didnt read my proposal correctly ! Nor my replies to other players ... I said stripes are locked in medieval and alliance are extremelly important in the process of getting the trophies  ... is not individual..

I will admit that your idea is a good one. And it has potential to do what you intend. However, it also leaves open the ability for those who wish to take advantage to do so.

All I can think of here is that this gives a way for someone to help take out a town for someone else without having to declare war or leave alliance and earn stripes in the process. Otherwise I really do not see the value of this idea. If someone comes and attacks one of my members using this, my gut reaction is to then declare war and go attack the offender, so I do not see how this is anything but a way to get around rules. Maybe I am misunderstanding?

Yes , you missunderstood ..stripes are obtained by killing units not by destroying towns ...and I am counting on Bers to make them hardly to obtain... Plus , the real destruction for almost everybody except you , starts late in classical and in medieval.; my proposal was to give to despot players something to do waiting the siege and destructive weapons...  and making them fighting in early days...As it obvious that the +1 era or the "rage" for getting stripes are not working. 

And you cant declare war in stone age, only late in clasical! Even if you'll be the FIRST one able to declare war, dont forget that the other alliance must study war too , if not you cant declare war .... 

And yes, this is the purpose later ..to declare war to the hunt stripers and fight another despots ... and fill your Trophy hall lol 

If we are not giving a try or make proposals , how we will know if those trophies are obtainable in the new conditions, after all of those changes ? 

 Collect will have 5 victories ....despots only 1 , someone must test it in one way or the other

I attacked many despots, then they switched to collect, so to continue my war I must attack them as collect, I also have attacked many monarchy who are the same as despot. I am only stating what I think. It was not about you. It was just a difference of opinion to yours and what I see could happen. I also know that in medieval siege can destroy a town very well.

I attacked many despots, then they switched to collect, so to continue my war I must attack them as collect, I also have attacked many monarchy who are the same as despot. I am only stating what I think. It was not about you. It was just a difference of opinion to yours and what I see could happen. I also know that in medieval siege can destroy a town very well.

Admiting you're right,  a hop town wont provide so many trophies, as long as is mostly only culture and economical  buildings..Maybe Bers should not put trophies for this type of buildings, that's all....or, contrarely, increase a lot their number..how many hop towns an alliance can built? And maybe the leader must survey also if players in the alliance are abusing... 

Just for the record, you can cheats for stripes already without adding anything to the game so I literally see nothing changing if this was added. Majority of players with trophy halls right now did not earn them the proper way lol

Just for the record, you can cheats for stripes already without adding anything to the game so I literally see nothing changing if this was added. Majority of players with trophy halls right now did not earn them the proper way lol

I guess that is why mine is still only level 1 :( only found two players while I was at war who had rage :(