Suggestion for bug-forum

I know there is a different status for every posted bug. But at moment we have 9 pages of reported bugs. Some of them solved, some of them still avaible. Some bugs you will work on now, some you will work just in a month or later.

With next wave of new testers im sure there will be many new reports and im also sure there will be many double reports. Maybe its better for your developers and also for us tester to sort them into an subforum. All solved and rejected reports will moved there and just open reports will be remain at the normal bug-forum.

So you don't forget an old report, its easier for us to see what is reported from another player. What should we test again and what is really solved and so on.

While we're making requests: Berserker it would be useful to have an icon or notation for those who can moderate threads. This makes it easier for non-moderators to tell who the mods are, but also makes it fairer for everyone to know who's got more privileges and who hasn't.

I agree with Buckwheat's suggestions.

 Sounds like someone wants to brag about their privileges - lol ;)

 Sounds like someone wants to brag about their privileges - lol ;)

Actually not really. I feel honoured, but mostly bad because it's not immediately obvious that I can (and have) move bugs to the forums or reject them, or merge them. If I or others are to be given moderator status then it's only fair that others know that a non-Enkord staff moved/rejected/merged their bugs. That way it's more transparent and non-mods can appeal to Enkord staff if they think mods have done something in error or maliciously. I'm thinking later down the track too, when there are more players and discussion.

In actual fact, if Enkord aren't planning on making the moderator process more transparent, then I would give up moderator status altogether. I don't like the idea that I can move stuff around at will without other players being aware that I can do that.

Its always important to clean up the forum. Thats why i suggest an option for better clean up of the bug-forum. At moment you and admins just move same reports together.  Thats also important, without that you will have seperate discussions about same theme.

But there are many different old threads (unimportant now) between the important and i believe it would be better to have a place where you can move them.

I do not want to criticize your work here, i just suggest more possibilities for you.

In actual fact, if Enkord aren't planning on making the moderator process more transparent, then I would give up moderator status altogether. I don't like the idea that I can move stuff around at will without other players being aware that I can do that.

Sorry about encumbering you with moderation stuff. I though that because of you reported so many bugs and spending a lot of your time to pay attention to them I would give you the tools to organize them a bit as well too and help us a little bit with all that mess. What I missed is probably you did not really wanted that but was too polite to refuse the offer. I am terribly sorry about my short views and I have removed that status now.

I'm not complaining about having to do it, and I was happy to. I am certainly not too polite to say no.

However, you misunderstand: all I meant was that if players are also moderators, then it should be fair for other players who are not moderators, to know this.

For instance, later down the track when the game is fully released, say you have players who moderate the forums. An argument starts out between a few players and the player-moderator decides to remove a post or delete a thread entirely. The players who are arguing will just assume that Enkord removed the post; whereas another player did. It's entirely possible that a moderator-player can or will abuse the power they have, and it's only fair to everyone if the process is transparent. If the post in the argument is removed and people assume it is Enkord doing the removal, then they might not complain if something has been unfairly removed; if they know it is a player-moderator (who might be doing it maliciously) then they can complain to Enkord about the unfair treatment.

Again, it's not that I didn't want the responsibility, I just want to make sure it's done fairly. And that I believe so strongly in the issue of fairness that I would rather not be a moderator if no one can tell that I am one.

Think there's probably been a misunderstanding happening here... Buckwheat, it's been pretty obvious to me that you've been moderating. I don't think you need to have a special icon or note stating such. I think most people are just grateful of the assistance. If you have the authority to merge; edit; sort etc then great cause someone's doing it. Not that Berserker and the rest of the team aren't... I just thought it was good to have someone dedicated to the forum... to help keep things in order.

Thanks; see my comment above. It's easy to tell this might be happening but I'm thinking long-term. A few players in the game and it's obvious when and who is doing the moderating. And "you're lucky" that I'm not simply removing stuff because I can. I'm thinking long-term when the game is fully released and there may be issues to be had with moderators abusing power or normal players wanting to correct an issue and not knowing who to ask or whether to ask at all.

Think there's probably been a misunderstanding happening here... Buckwheat, it's been pretty obvious to me that you've been moderating. I don't think you need to have a special icon or note stating such. I think most people are just grateful of the assistance. If you have the authority to merge; edit; sort etc then great cause someone's doing it. Not that Berserker and the rest of the team aren't... I just thought it was good to have someone dedicated to the forum... to help keep things in order.

Thanks; see my comment above. It's easy to tell this might be happening but I'm thinking long-term. A few players in the game and it's obvious when and who is doing the moderating. And "you're lucky" that I'm not simply removing stuff because I can. I'm thinking long-term when the game is fully released and there may be issues to be had with moderators abusing power or normal players wanting to correct an issue and not knowing who to ask or whether to ask at all.

I agree with sun in oz. Those of us who follow closely knew this. We haven't complained

I also don't think moderation process should be transparent. I think it should be invisible and I speak this after I've had enough experience managing community of our other online game. We don't need people to complain on bad mod as 99% of the time it's just emotions and only distracting us from real problems. To the player's side moderator's decision most of the time should be final and not something to start flame war about.

Preventing moderator from abusing their power should be done differently, invisible to the players, because they should focus on discussing the game, not politics behind it. To control moderators we have log of their actions and it is pretty easy for us to see what player was banned and what posts were deleted.

Personally I am strongly against any special signs that distinguish one player from another that can be considered as some kind of special status on forum. That's why we don't even have public post counter - that is made so person with a lot of posts will not be considered a "veteran" and person with low post counter is frowned upon. I would even remove the prominent text from my own posts as well, but I need it for people to understand that my posts are kinda official response and not third-party opinions. It's definitely not because I want to feel myself special in my own game.

Forum is not the game and special-ness should be expressed with game features where you express yourself as a gamer. IMO forum should be as neutral as possible so every new person lurking into it won't feel herself a stranger.