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[SPOILER] Survey for those who beat Karfaree or at least played it long enough.

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I will fix bratishka so he will allow the opera quest to progress even if you snitched on him.

Game crash when I click now on Bratishka - core.exe - 2 reports send 

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Will be fixed in the next update.

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  1. Have you been to jail? What did you do to get there? Have you tried to escape it?

Since it appears nobody else has escaped, I will say I have, several times, but not sure if I should keep escaping, to see if there is any reward for that (any hints on that bers?) or just wait out the ever increasing sentence.

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  1. Have you been to jail? What did you do to get there? Have you tried to escape it?

Since it appears nobody else has escaped, I will say I have, several times, but not sure if I should keep escaping, to see if there is any reward for that (any hints on that bers?) or just wait out the ever increasing sentence.

well I did what you are suggesting also but I did not really feel that that is escaping since you can only leave and get thrown back in when you go back.

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Since it appears nobody else has escaped, I will say I have, several times, but not sure if I should keep escaping, to see if there is any reward for that (any hints on that bers?) or just wait out the ever increasing sentence.

well I did what you are suggesting also but I did not really feel that that is escaping since you can only leave and get thrown back in when you go back.

I just thought if I escaped enough times, there may be some reward for showing them the weakness in their prison system. :)

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Some questions to those who have at least completed main quest of Karfaree (Approaching a God):

  1. How long did it take to beat the main quest? How long secondary quests?

About 3 weeks I've spend now. Haven't found the black key. All others quests are finished

  1. Which quests have you beaten and which failed or decided to skip?

None

  1. How did you get into Karfaree?

Bribe the guard and go through the sewers

  1. How did you get invited into the party?

cook and opera

  1. Which salad have you done for the chef?

Meat

  1. Have you gained access to the Black Market? How?

No

  1. Did you take part in the Opera play? How well did you perform? Have you received a mask?

Brilliant...off course, didn't get a special mask, just that common mask

  1. Have you figured out who is the Doom Bringer?

Not yet

  1. How did you get the box for Zoryana?

Bought it

  1. Have you been to jail? What did you do to get there? Have you tried to escape it?

Damaged Coloseum, didn't find a way to escape

  1. Did you take part in Gladiator fights? How did you perform? Did your performance there affect your interaction with other characters? Which ones?

No, not the season to fight now it seams

  1. Have you uncovered the big secret of Hextor? Have you helped him with his quest regarding Necropolis?

No

  1. Did you manage to prove to Rayanus that he is himself?

Yes

  1. Have you helped Domina to return to business? How did you convince Rayanus?

Yes, I resent to say what pressure I used, but it's vulgar, if he does what he's suspected off.

  1. Have you tried the Domina's girls? Have you tried to work at Domina's? Which client have you got?

Yes, No, Never any at that will stay that way.

  1. Have you revealed the true story of Domina and how she become in charge of her house?

Yes

  1. How you revealed the story about Domina and Ignavus?

Talking with Domina

  1. Have you dated someone in Karfaree? How did it end up? Why?

No

  1. Did you become physically intimate with other character in Karfaree? Which one?

No

  1. Have you helped the Zoo Keeper? How? What about the lion?

Yes, Zoo is open again

  1. Have you tried your luck at the Casino Square? Won anything worthwhile?

No, haven't tried

  1. Have you found Lucy? Was she a good or bad girl? Have you helped her to get a job? Which one?

No

  1. Have you kept in touch with her to see her progress at her place of work?

No

  1. How did you like more serious non-personal themes in Karfaree like corruption, murder, crime? Did it made the story and overall atmosphere more interesting? Less interesting?

Maybe need to dig deeper to find that out

  1. How did you like more serious personal themes in Karfaree like gender relationships, intimate innuendos, options to become closer with some characters? Did it made the story and overall atmosphere more interesting? Less interesting?

I like the overall atmosphere. The mingle of characters is appealing. a nice twist , more challenging than the dens and dungeons.

  1. How many gems have you found in Karfaree?

Over halve :)

  1. How hard were the quests to beat in Karfaree? Which ones were the easiest and which ones - the hardest?

Opera is tough to find all the pages. Most are easy.

  1. How did you like conversations with characters in Karfaree? Did they catch your attention or standing in your way? Are they too long/descriptive or good enough? Have you noticed the interactivity of them and various options that are unlocked in conversations depending on certain conditions?

That's too hard to tell. Once chosen a path, you can't go back and try another. So yes. If you read carefully , you get hints to follow some path.

  1. Were there too many characters in Karfaree? Enough? Too few?

It has potential to make it mor complicated. But for now, I think it gives enough challenge.

  1. How do you compare the Karfaree with a) previous main quest locations like Opposition Hideout/Keepers Village/Ruins of New Kyiv. b) original Totem Tribe locations if you played it.

Much better.

  1. How do you like the size of Karfaree in terms of content? Too big / could be split into multiple locations? Too small? Good eough ?

Good enough

  1. Have you found a trace of another unlucky newbie? (Easter Egg)

No

  1. Did you feel extremely lucky or extremely unlucky because of your actions (Easter Egg)

No

  1. How many secrets have you found in Karfaree?

1

  1. How did you beat Karfaree in general? Specify your progress there in siginficant steps / key points.

Finish Blonde, Cook, Domina, Opera, Party, 10 roses, Zoo

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1. I have not solved all the quests yet and am still working on them - I like that I have to return to Karfaree again and again to progress them. I've been playing in Karfaree for a couple of weeks now.

2. I haven't skipped or failed any yet. I made the salad, performed in the opera, helped Porcius with his bunch of flowers, convinced Rayanus of his identity, got Zoryana's box and Domina's is open for trade once more. I have partially completed the zoo, Jack of Swords' party and access to the black market.

3. I bribed the guard.

4. From the cook and from the opera but I'm not allowed in as I'm not well enough dressed :)

5. I made the Breeze salad.

6. Not yet!

7. Yes - it was great fun and I received a mask. I was worried about the opera as my computer has no sound card - thank you for making it possible to complete the quest without sound.

8. No

9. I paid for it and Zoryana now floats between my towns.

10. Not yet but I think it is only a matter of time!

11. No - the colosseum is still covered with fog and Hextor tells me the contest is over until next year.

12. No

13. Yes

14. Yes - I fed Rayanus to convince him and mentioned his scar and voice.

15. Yes - I spent a lovely time with the science nerd and her yeti in room number three :) Domina won't give me a job yet but I am working on that.

16. Yes

17. Yes but there might be more I still have to discover.

18. Only at Domina's House of Pleasure and it went well!

19. Just the lovely lady and the yeti in room 3!

20. I have helped out the zoo keeper but will need to wait until I have a larger range of animals before I can fill his cages.

21. I have gambled there four times and once I won a Trommel.

22. I've not found Lucy yet but looking forward to meeting her and getting a new quest.

23. I very much like Karfaree - it feels like a real city. You can easily get lost there and there are so many people to talk to, it is immersive and great fun!

24. Great - we are all adults and lots of the conversations made me laugh. I think it's pretty amazing and am very impressed :)

25. I've found over half of them and each time I visit, I find one or two more. It is hard to find the hidden objects because the scene is so busy but I really enjoy hunting for them.

26. I suppose the ones I've solved were the easiest for me - they were hard enough to be challenging and I am looking forward to solving the others.

27. I like the conversations - if anything, I think some more non-linearity would be fun.

28. Love the characters and please introduce more if possible :)

29. All other quest locations have been great but they pale in comparison with Karfaree. It is the one quest location that I have to return to again and again to achieve different goals - fanatastic job Enkord team!

30. As said above, I think it is great. I love that there is a location with interweaving quests and characters - just like a real city - if you are going to change it, please make it bigger.

31. No

32. I will have to wait and see!

33. None

34. I have not beaten it yet and am looking forward to revisiting until I do.

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  How long did it take to beat the main quest? How long secondary quests?
Have an invite but I'm not able to get in because I'm dressed as a peasant
Haven't done all the secondary quests, but the one I did took me a week

     Which quests have you beaten and which failed or decided to skip?
Emperors Salad
Madman and Roses
Happy go lucky blonde
Cheeki-Breeki
Natalka=Petrovka at the opera
Damsel in distress
Pleasures you have never experienced
Who is Mr. R
    How did you get into Karfaree?
Going through the cave
    How did you get invited into the party?
Cook and Opera
    Which salad have you done for the chef?
The one with carrot, squash and other things (forget the other ingredients)
    Have you gained access to the Black Market? How?
Yes, killed the guards
    Did you take part in the Opera play? How well did you perform? Have you received a mask?
Yes, I performed good and got a mask
    Have you figured out who is the Doom Bringer?
No

    How did you get the box for Zoryana?
Talked to Stepa, gave him 1000 lumber and 2 lucky coins

    Have you been to jail? What did you do to get there? Have you tried to escape it?
Yes, demolished the wall of the arena. No I tried not to escape
    Did you take part in Gladiator fights? How did you perform? Did your performance there affect your interaction with other characters? Which ones?
No
    Have you uncovered the big secret of Hextor? Have you helped him with his quest regarding Necropolis?
No not Yet
    Did you manage to prove to Rayanus that he is himself?
Yes
    Have you helped Domina to return to business? How did you convince Rayanus?
yes
    Have you tried the Domina's girls? Have you tried to work at Domina's? Which client have you got?
no
    Have you revealed the true story of Domina and how she become in charge of her house?
yes
    How you revealed the story about Domina and Ignavus?
yes
    Have you dated someone in Karfaree? How did it end up? Why?
no
    Did you become physically intimate with other character in Karfaree? Which one?
no
    Have you helped the Zoo Keeper? How? What about the lion?
I brought a fox and a monkey, but I have no more meat for the lion
    Have you tried your luck at the Casino Square? Won anything worthwhile?
no
    Have you found Lucy? Was she a good or bad girl? Have you helped her to get a job? Which one? Have you kept in touch with her to see her progress at her place of work?
Yes I found Lucy, and found her a job at the house of pleasures
    How did you like more serious non-personal themes in Karfaree like corruption, murder, crime? Did it made the story and overall atmosphere more interesting? Less interesting?
More interesting
    How did you like more serious personal themes in Karfaree like gender relationships, intimate innuendos, options to become closer with some characters? Did it made the story and overall atmosphere more interesting? Less interesting?
more interesting
    How many gems have you found in Karfaree?
over half the gems found
    How hard were the quests to beat in Karfaree? Which ones were the easiest and which ones - the hardest?
The cook was the easiest, finding Disidiana was boring, you have to talk to all the peeps
    How did you like conversations with characters in Karfaree? Did they catch your attention or standing in your way? Are they too long/descriptive or good enough? Have you noticed the interactivity of them and various options that are unlocked in conversations depending on certain conditions?
The conversations were nice
    Were there too many characters in Karfaree? Enough? Too few?
There were enough characters
    How do you compare the Karfaree with a) previous main quest locations like Opposition Hideout/Keepers Village/Ruins of New Kyiv. b) original Totem Tribe locations if you played it.
Karfaree was fun to do, more things to do then the other quest locations
    How do you like the size of Karfaree in terms of content? Too big / could be split into multiple locations? Too small? Good enough?
Good enough
    Have you found a trace of another unlucky newbie? (Easter Egg)
Don't think so
    Did you feel extremely lucky or extremely unlucky because of your actions (Easter Egg)
Don't know
    How many secrets have you found in Karfaree?
Did not look for secrets because of the quests
    How did you beat Karfaree in general? Specify your progress there in siginficant steps / key points.
Don't think I have beaten Karfaree because there are some quest I did not finish.
Talked to every character, and other peeps. Picked up everything I could find.

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Question about Cheeki-Breeki quest : 

Is been now almost 1 month since Bratishka is telling me "Snitches get stitches"!  My quest is still open, the last entry said that I've decided to report to Rayanus about Bratishka... But Rayanus is not giving me any option to make my report . I am level 47 now, with high stats in all the categories ( I've checked with different combinations of stats : level 15 at least)  . So, if it is a question of stats , maybe we can get a hint about this quest please? Cause is really frustrating to not advance since 1 month ( and very boring to check each time I get new stats to see if something changed) .Or am I searching the solution in the wrong direction? 

Could be a bug, same for the opera? 

General question : Did someone succeed / fail  this quest after Bratiskha decided to tell " Snitches get stitches" ? 

Thanks

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Could be a bug, same for the opera? 

Will be fixed in the next update.

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I got in by killing the worms in the cave, they are not easy but also not to hard. I am still working on the survey but wanted to add to this talk about the way through the caves.

Dont forget that today you are the most advanced player in the game :-) I was speaking about the casual players ...

I got in through the cave and only been around 3 weeks.  The moving rock is the hint.

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I would like to suggest that Black Market in Karfaree may be refresh once every 1-2 weeks for example in order to allow to level 50 players to exchange their useless figurines for blueprints... Curently, after 2 or 3 trades the black market is completely useless. 

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Update point 10 : I am in jail for the second time lol !

This time because I've threatened the guard in front of the banquet room ! I hope I will still be able to go in lol 

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The only thing really to add is that I got very very bored clicking on all the towns people to find out information.  Lots of the quests seemed to require this which very quickly became tedious. (Or maybe I just did not discover a better way of gaining the info) If that could be reduced I would certainly enjoy K way more.  It is a good location and I appreciate all the hard work that has gone into making it, and some of the storylines are very amusing.  So I persisted with most of it ...

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Months later afrer Karfaree was introduced and I would like to bump this thread and ask players to submit the survey thouse who didn't initially. And even thouse who did could do it again as I am sure by now they have different experience with it.

Also I would like to ask for any specific impressions not covered by survey - it's a good time to sum things up and it will greatly help us with designing future story locations.

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1. I do not remember

2. Not finished Hero dream, failed Path of gladiator and for one hero Damsel in mistress

3. By cave with worm

4. Opera and salad

5. I do not remember

6. Yes, by byuing some stuff in regular market

7. Yes, i forgot one part

8. No

9. Bought it

10. Yes, damaged coloseum, i do not found way to escape

11. I was defeated in 2. round (to weak - not prepared hero), 2nd hero do not have option to fight

12. Not yet

13. Yes

14. Yes, some physical pleaures

15. Yes, yes, all

16. Not yet

17. I am at start ...

18. No

19. No

20. Yes, but now i regret it; i was feed all animals and gave him another; on lion i tried valeriana but it was not working and then i fed him. What about option to kill zoo keeper or report it as crime and send him in a jail?

21. Yes, all wheels until they said i allready won biggest price; yes, i not remember what

22. Yes; i do not know; for one hero yes; in Domina place; no

23. More interessting, it could be a bit more to developed

24. I must visit Karfaree more, now i do not know

25. I miss one white

26. Easiest - 10 flowers, hardest - zoo

27. I liked them, there are funny; do not stand in may way - they helped me find some clues

28. It could be more

29. I cannot answer yet

30. Good enough or could be bigger

31. No

32. Yes

33. One

34. I like it, i like to uncover fog, talk with people, i ended with jester queston with bad answer.

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The only thing really to add is that I got very very bored clicking on all the towns people to find out information.  Lots of the quests seemed to require this which very quickly became tedious. (Or maybe I just did not discover a better way of gaining the info) If that could be reduced I would certainly enjoy K way more.  It is a good location and I appreciate all the hard work that has gone into making it, and some of the storylines are very amusing.  So I persisted with most of it ...

This was the biggest drawback for me also.  So boring and tedious that I lost interest in Karfaree completely.   What I did of Karfaree was amusing and fun,  loved the House of pleasures and completed most of the quests until it came to trying to get clues by talking to the townspeople... That is when I gave up on Karfaree

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Hi,

I usually don't do the surveys (don't like how they are set up), but understand you're interested in the data, and it's obvious that you (and your team) put a lot of effort and care into it, so will give it a try.

I played 2 heros this alpha, which was part of the reason why I eventually stopped visiting Karfaree. I simply got confused of where I had done what, and since I didn't enjoy the location much in general (see below), eventually I stopped persueing it with either hero.

1 - not sure what the main quest was exactly, tbh

2 - hardly any, but trying to remember: got that blond girl to follow hero to dwelling, made the salad & got into the party. didn't do zoo (taming animals generally not my thing), had written quest location off by the time I had finished garden puzzle and could have gotten the red flowers, couldn't find 1 opera page so eventually gave up on that, got close to having the bath house guy (note: finding all the names/characters hard to remember) admit who he is, but that was about the time I ended up not liking/revisiting)

3 - bribed guard with one hero, through tunnel/fighting worms with other hero

4+5 - made the salad, don't remember which one

6 - no, couldn't find key (this was before I generally got better at finding items tho, so maybe not that hard after all)

7 - no, 1 missing opera page

8 - no clue who or what doom bringer is

9 - think I gave the guy resources?

10 - yes / damaged colloseum / think I just waited (for an hour or so?)

11 - no. by the time I had more army, I had lost interest in the location

12 - no. Does this have to do with the portrait from one of the dens? again, had lost interest by the time I found that.

13 - no, that was around where I stopped visiting.

14-19 - no. This might have been another bigger reason why I stopped visiting and persueing the quest(s). I am (fairly) young, very progressive and anything but prude. But just from reading these survey questions and reading snippets of comments from other players, I completely lost interest because it all sounded a bit silly, childish and oldschool/antiquated, like old men from a past century giggling about dirty jokes (sorry, hope this makes sense). Basically, going to be blunt here, the world/net is full of better, um, material in that department, so personally don't have need for it in this game :)

20 - started to, but as mentioned above, am not been a keen animal tamer in general.

21 - don't know where or what casino square is

22 - don't know/remember who Lucy is

23 - less interesting, found the bits I did/read fairly dull, superficial, shallow

24 - less interesting, see above

25 - probably just a few

26 - can't really judge as didn't try much to persue

27 - the conversations didn't catch my attention. As mentioned above, I never really managed to remember who is who, how they were related to each other. Found walking back and forth to characters tiresome, took too long, etc. Too much reading (and I have a lit major, haha!), and lost interest in comparing/remembering/exploring if/how different replies changed plots/actions.

28 - for now (will give it another try) they were too many.

 29 - I find Karfaree very different. While the other locations imo give an overview type of gist in terms of overall story, Karfaree seems to be trying to give individual characters' stories (which, to me, feel random tho). I am usually very interested in indidual's story/fate, but not in this case. Obviously the overall size is different too and the amount of options/(sub)quests/things to do.

30 - I do like the idea of a bigger/more complex location. I wouldn't say needs to be split into different locations, but maybe (for me) needs to be split into different "city quarters" to not feel like such a big blob?

31/32 - no idea what this question is about

33 - didn't really "beat" much

Okay, sorry for sounding so negative. It just didn't do it for me, although I will give it another try next alpha. Maybe I was simply too interested/busy with other aspects of the game. Although I don't think I'll ever be very interested in the stories & characters, but do want to try to solve a bit more/get more accustomed with the place. As said in the beginning, it is obvious that a lot of time/energy/creativity was spent on it, and I can see how other players might enjoy it very much.

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  1. Have you helped Domina to return to business? How did you convince Rayanus?
  2. Have you tried the Domina's girls? Have you tried to work at Domina's? Which client have you got?
I have done this one 3 times, each a bit different then the others. It all depends on the skills you have. The first one I had very little in the skill department, so I had to bribe him. the 2nd one I really do not remember too well, how I did it. BUT the 3rd I laughed and laughed, I waited till I had like 15 in the Charisma, Wisdom and Intelligence it was the below request.The conversation with Domina took a bit for me to find out what he got but I thought it was funny, others may not. But I like adult humor.  

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