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SPOILER: Survey for those who beat Keepers Village and Ruins of New Kyiv

Reply to berserker :

I have checked your account and in fact you have met him, there is no bug. Maybe you forgot it or clicked through the conversation without paying attention.

Thanks for checking that. Still can't remember talking to anyone outside the village :((

Will watch out for him next time I play through these new locations. Can't afford to start another hero so it will have to wait until stage 4.

6 years ago

Several questions to those whe have beaten the new 2 locations:
1.    How long did it take to beat each of the two locations?
I finished in 3 days - about 3-4 hours at different times during the day for each location, but NK took me longer
2.    In what order have you beaten them? Was it one first then another, or flipping back and forth? If so, at which positions?
I started with KV, opened all fogged area possible at first, wrote down all inscriptions on the stones, played a little with the puzzle and then went to NK, because I missed by mistake part of the conversation with Kalmanu and thought that I had messed things up. In NK I did the same and then had to stop the game for a week. Afterwards flipped between both locations when I got bored with my slow-wittedness.
3.    If you have beaten Ruins of New Kyiv with NEW account, what kind of army allowed you to beat it? (For advanced pre-existing accounts this is not very useful because you are too strong for this location which is supposed to be unlocked earlier in the game)
Not with new account and so I dragged along to NK and KV my whole army just in case.
4.    Which characters did you managed to join your town?
Lester and Eleuia
5.    How did you beat the Juliana quest?
This was the easiest part of all – Fargred appeared by himself after I activated the Weather Tower and changed weather several times
6.    Puzzle in Keepers Village. Have you beaten it? How long / how many tries did it take? How hard was it for you?
Sorry, I spent some 30 minutes on this puzzle and then decided to leave it for a dessert (more so I already had read the hint that it is not necessary for finishing the quest). It seems difficult to me because I think there are too much variables hence too much variants of the solution – maybe one more slight hint is needed? I will try to solve it at leisure and without help now
7.    How hard was items hidden in Ruins of New Kyiv? Which ones were the hardest? (not talking about gems)
In both locations quest items didn't appear immediately (this happens to me always in my towns if there are quest items needed to open chests). So I had to quit and log in several times for a quest item to appear – and as I didn't know what I was looking for, it took a long time searching (for example water pot appeared after several times logging in and out and on the third very careful combing of the terrain, meanwhile I tried water bucket and empty flasks with all available wells in all towns). Weather runes were easy except for the Cloud – it appeared too after several times logging in and out in a place I am absolutely sure I did search before. Weather tower was great fun.  
8.    How many gems have you found in each of the two locations? Which ones are missing for you?
I have only one white missing in NK and still can't find it.
9.    How did you like conversations with characters? Do they stand in the way of your gaming or compliment it well?
Conversations are sometimes necessary giving clues to the different quests and sometimes just informative giving some more details to the game storyline (but they are fairly compact and do not bother or distract). Still I do not like how the conversations are structured – sometimes I had to start them over and over again and to read all answers I had already read as not to miss some information or ask all available questions and this is boring.
10.    How do you compare these 2 new locations with a) Opposition Hideout; b) original Totem Tribe locations; c) Keepers Village and Ruins of New Kyiv one towards another.
Much more fun than TT and Opposition Hideout, otherwise NK and KV are about equally interesting, still I like NK a little bit more
11.    How did you beat each of the new quests available in those locations? Specify any siginficant steps / choices.
Both quest locations looked at first very difficult for me because of the reasons stated above (quest items appearing not immediately which made me try many false solutions). I am not absolutely sure but it seems to me that this also applies to some seemingly inaccessible places where you can enter further into the fogged area and find items necessary for the quest (I do not mean the places where I had to cut bushes or build bridges but the places where there are trees across the path). I was lucky to give to some of the characters the correct answers (at least I think so). I am not sure I had solved everything – I couldn't find Bronze sphere and missing Alta. I tried to apply The Amulet of Kolyada to the pedestal in NK but nothing happened. I hope these tasks are for the next planned quests.

6 years ago

Your bug with missing items is really weird. Looks like something is wrong with your PC. Was it always like this?

6 years ago

Several questions to those whe have beaten the new 2 locations:

  1. How long did it take to beat each of the two locations? I would say about 4 hours each
  2. In what order have you beaten them? Was it one first then another, or flipping back and forth? If so, at which positions? I did it both ways from my heros. Went to NK first in one the KV in the other
  3. If you have beaten Ruins of New Kyiv with NEW account, what kind of army allowed you to beat it? (For advanced pre-existing accounts this is not very useful because you are too strong for this location which is supposed to be unlocked earlier in the game) Old accounts
  4. Which characters did you managed to join your town? For me only Lester. Father just keeps saying No
  5. How did you beat the Juliana quest? Differently both time. In one I killed Fargrad in another I did not. But got the broach and gave it to her in both. Once I argued with her about it. thinking next I will keep it
  6. Puzzle in Keepers Village. Have you beaten it? How long / how many tries did it take? How hard was it for you? it was very hard even with roadstones tried and then finally asked someone.
  7. How hard was items hidden in Ruins of New Kyiv? Which ones were the hardest? (not talking about gems) Papers were hard. Last one by healer had to ask about. Also Snowflake was hard for me
  8. How many gems have you found in each of the two locations? Which ones are missing for you? I am missing 2 White in NK and not sure about keepers
  9. How did you like conversations with characters? Do they stand in the way of your gaming or compliment it well? I like that you can see which is key but I do not like that I have to talk to them just to see what I might be missing. I find the conversations to be boring. :(
  10. How do you compare these 2 new locations with a) Opposition Hideout; b) original Totem Tribe locations; c) Keepers Village and Ruins of New Kyiv one towards another. Much better then opposition hideout, although that could just be because I have been there so many times already.  :) also I really liked having to find and water the trees :) that reminded me so much of things from original :) I liked NK better then keepers village. I also like knowing there are still things to do at both locations :) that reminds me of the original game also.
  11. How did you beat each of the new quests available in those locations? Specify any significant steps / choices. Well as I said for eluia quest one hero killed fargrad and the other didn't but I think she still can go back, both gave her the broach but one only after a fight.  Lester has joined me in both heros that have completed it. I may tke the survey when Tuey II gets there but she is still to small a level after wipe :(

6 years ago

Also so many spelling errors in both locations it about drove me crazy

6 years ago

Reply to berserker :

Your bug with missing items is really weird. Looks like something is wrong with your PC. Was it always like this?

No, I think this began after the last major update when Hero was reset to lvl 1 or shortly after that. Meanwhile I hadn't made changes to my PC or installed any important software. This happens mainly with quest items but it happened twice with chests to open. In the moment I have 5 bells in my bag and the chest which had to be opened with them (I found it on first pass) disappeared after I logged out and entered again in order to find missing bells. It cannot be a lag in Internet connection - I have very good and stable connection with optic cable and 50 Mb/s.

I understand that there is something specific on my PC as nobody else complains about such bug but I cannot figure out what might be the reason or where to search. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Edited by lucille 6 years ago. Reason: text added

6 years ago

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1.How long did it take to beat each of the two locations?
It took me longer to beat Keepers Village because of the puzzle. Probably four hours total.


2. I beat Ruins before I beat Keepers Village... if I can say that I did beat it at all.


3. I tried these quests with three heroes. One hero was just a lvl 3, and needed some help beating the last large group of skeletons. I took a combination of stone age and classic age fighters, two each, total 10. This was successful.

4. In all three cases, Lester followed me to town. I found him and talked to him. I could not get the Main Keeper Kanen to let Eleuia go.


5. The Juliana quest is interesting. Again, I had three experiences here. As soon as she gets the brooch, she is gone. So, if I didn't question her enough about "who is in charge", I don't ever get to find Keeper Kanen. In two cases I did find him, in one I did not. She does stick around long enough to hear about my slaying of Fargred. But after that I had better be quick or I lose her.


6. I have beaten the puzzle in Keepers Village. Of my three heroes, one puzzle was easy, and paved the way to the other two. I needed help with this, and even after I was given a hint to the solution, I had to solve the easier puzzle to finally figure out the solution.


7. I liked the Ruins. I did not find the items terribly difficult. The sun and snowflake gave me some trouble. The hints placed in the game about the sun's location (branches, shadows, etc.) resembles the position of the receptacle for the sun as well as the location of the sun itself. This threw me off.


8. I found all the gems in both locations except for one white one at Ruins. I will find it :)

9. The conversations were good, and they enhanced the game. They tended to bring several strings together. As you warned, they were very important. Eleuia warns about betrayal so conversation with Keeper Kanen's son is defined. There is no game change possible with the witch doctor. I purposely failed one quest conversation with Lester to see what happens. :) That hero has recently been deleted so it is no longer in my future to see the effects of this. The conversation with the Chosen One is so incredibly brief that I forgot about it altogether by the time I spoke to Keeper Kanen.


10 Both games and all quests have similar games, humor in conversation with townsfolk, surprise attacks by various monster-types, and puzzles to beat. The KV puzzle is not needed to beat the quest, but one does not know that until it is completed. Lets face it, the OH, the two new quests, and the original TT are all similar.. they all contain the TT personality that develops them. :) Luckily this will never change. Original TT islands could not be failed. I kept flipping back and forth between Ruins and KV, and in the end I liked that in original TT that I could just click on any island and get there. I didn't have to walk (or swim) from one location to another.


11. I liked Ruins better that Keepers Village. I liked the puzzle progress and how one needed to change the environment in order to find items. It leaves several things undone, like the blue stone. I know I will be returning. One hero did not run into a set of skeletons until after the quest was completed and I was looking for gems. I would have missed the big fight altogether. The skeletons were well hidden behind a wall. I had to click on them to get them to fight. The others all jumped out at me.
I do not believe I have beat the Keepers Village. At this point - after three separate tries - I believe it is next to impossible. I cannot get Kanen to release his daughter, in one case the son won't speak to me, Juliana skipped out with her brooch so further talk with her is impossible, I forgot about talking to the Chosen One and cannot alter my conversation with Kanen, and to top it all off, I have no charisma :).

6 years ago

Glad to see I was not the only player who forgot I had spoken to the Chosen One before entering the village and meeting the Main Keeper.

Edited by kiwiaunty 6 years ago.

6 years ago

Reply to lucille :


I understand that there is something specific on my PC as nobody else complains about such bug but I cannot figure out what might be the reason or where to search. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

The disappeared chest is a separate issue. Speaking of items not always appearing, perhaps a conflict with some other software or a virus. I can suggest doing a full scan and if it does not help try to disable antivirus temporarily to see if it solves the problem.

6 years ago

Reply to Simba :


5. The Juliana quest is interesting. Again, I had three experiences here. As soon as she gets the brooch, she is gone. So, if I didn't question her enough about "who is in charge", I don't ever get to find Keeper Kanen. In two cases I did find him, in one I did not.

If she is gone her worlds should not be required to reveal Nodin and get Kanen. If you didn't get it, you probably missing some other clue. (or it is a bug)

6 years ago

Reply to Simba :

 I do not believe I have beat the Keepers Village. At this point - after three separate tries - I believe it is next to impossible. I cannot get Kanen to release his daughter, in one case the son won't speak to me, Juliana skipped out with her brooch so further talk with her is impossible, I forgot about talking to the Chosen One and cannot alter my conversation with Kanen, and to top it all off, I have no charisma :).

That's the point of this game - there will are mutually exclusive choices which will make each playthrough different which should make it more interesting unlike TT1 where each time is always the same :)

6 years ago

Just a fast question, the charisma needed for eulia is always the same?

Now that i got help to beat the puzzle i am surpised, it's a lot harder to figure than to acually do, nice reward anyway.

6 years ago

Charisma is always the same, although there is an alternative way to get her without charisma requirement.

6 years ago

Reply to berserker :

That's the point of this game - there will are mutually exclusive choices which will make each playthrough different which should make it more interesting unlike TT1 where each time is always the same :)

This is funny because I noticed only what the similarities were between the quest locations & TT - instead of the differences. Different perspective :)

6 years ago

Reply to berserker :

Charisma is always the same, although there is an alternative way to get her without charisma requirement.

Ananau did it that way.Charm is at 1:)

6 years ago

Berserker, I have a question....SPOILER!! I didn't have the requirement to put out the fires when I first fed the beast his "food" from the healer, but I went back behind him anyway when he was asleep.  When I activated the weather tower, it woke him up and my hero/army all died.  Now that I have the bucket to put out the fires, I can't get past the beast........any suggestions?

6 years ago

Unfortunately you are out of luck. Later in the game there will be another quest involving the beast which will allow you to return there but it is not implemented yet.

6 years ago

Reply to berserker :

Unfortunately you are out of luck. Later in the game there will be another quest involving the beast which will allow you to return there but it is not implemented yet.

pfft...

6 years ago

Reply to TheBrat :

Unfortunately you are out of luck. Later in the game there will be another quest involving the beast which will allow you to return there but it is not implemented yet.

pfft...

my thoughts exactly, lol!

6 years ago


    1.How long did it take to beat each of the two locations?
    It took several hours over few days, because i hadn't enough carismapoints and I still not have all solved.
    2.In what order have you beaten them? Was it one first then another, or flipping back and forth? If so, at which positions?
    I started in Keepers Village got stuck with the puzzle than go to New Kyiv. Managed the Cerbero but not the obstracle, havn’t the right thing for it. Found not all items than flipped back and forth.
    3.If you have beaten Ruins of New Kyiv with NEW account, what kind of army allowed you to beat it? (For advanced pre-existing accounts this is not very useful because you are too strong for this location which is supposed to be unlocked earlier in the game)
    I have an “old” account.
    4.Which characters did you managed to join your town?
    Eleuia joined my town.
    5.How did you beat the Juliana quest?
    I found all pages and read them about Fargret, as I found the town with help from other players – first I choose the wrong item for watering then the wrong trees and watered them, nothing happens but last but not least I solved it. I gave her back what she needed and then went back to NK and talked with Fargred – he needed to be killed, so I did it.
    6.Puzzle in Keepers Village. Have you beaten it? How long / how many tries did it take? How hard was it for you?
    I can’t solve the puzzle. The hints on the stones are not usefull for me, tried all but nothing happens. I tried it very often in different ways, and then gave it up.
    7.How hard was items hidden in Ruins of New Kyiv? Which ones were the hardest? (not talking about gems)
    The sun and the raindrop were hard to find. Had help from another player. The pages were easy.
    8.How many gems have you found in each of the two locations? Which ones are missing for you?
    I found only the half of them in both locations.
    9.How did you like conversations with characters? Do they stand in the way of your gaming or compliment it well?
    Most of them were helpful but by Lester I chose the wrong answer. As I realized it, I can’t switch back in the conservation – he was angry and ran away.
    10.How do you compare these 2 new locations with a) Opposition Hideout; b) original Totem Tribe locations; c) Keepers Village and Ruins of New Kyiv one towards another.
    The 2 locations are more fascinating than Opposition Hideout. New Kyiv remembered me on the original Totem Tribe with the nice skeletons, the discovery of the territory, finding items and activating things. Keepers Village is a bit boring, only the puzzle and the trees to find the village.
    11.How did you beat each of the new quests available in those locations? Specify any siginficant steps / choices.
    I could beat some of the quests only with help from other players. In original TT I always knew what to do or found it out a while later, but in this new locations I got often stuck with no idea what to do. Especially some hints for the puzzle in KV on the stones are not very helpful.

6 years ago